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    I'll skip the label controversy for now and focus on the substance. It's an attempt at providing a reasonable alternative to "permanent revolution" and "new democracy." It's also an attempt at providing a reasonable strategy for the proletariat in modern countries where they aren't the majority of the population.

    Deferral of DOTP via the Bloc of Dispossessed Classes and "National"/"Pan-National" Petit-Bourgeoisie
    Simply put, in much of the Third World the proletariat is far from being in the demographic majority, and anything less than equal suffrage (except for the possible disenfranchisement of all bourgeois and "comprador petit-bourgeois" elements) such that the regime is not led by the working class is tantamount to minoritarianism.

    Judging from [a critic's] one-liner [he is] either for some form of collaboration with "progressive bourgeoisie," "national bourgeoisie," etc. or for outrageous civil war between a proletarian demographic minority and a petty farmer demographic majority ("peasantry").
    I go beyond any Maoist illusions in the "national" bourgeoisie. All the bourgeoisie and the comprador elements of the petit-bourgeoisie (easily identifiable by means of emigration) are destroyed via the wholesale nationalizations, not just disenfranchised.
    Greater flexibility for "March on Rome" to seize state power (People's War, Focoism, Breakthrough Military Coups, plus other means)
    This is related to the necessary deferral of the DOTP and its related political revolution. By the way, by "breakthrough military coups" I have Burkina Faso's Thomas Sankara and the Afghan PDPA as models. Nonetheless, greater geographic struggle is necessary than isolated nationalism.

    The "national"/"pan-national" segments of the petit-bourgeoisie in the Third World, ranging from the small-business shop owners to the small tenant farmers and sharecroppers, are both socially radical and politically revolutionary, but not socially revolutionary. This applies even if many of them organize in a hypothetical Socialist Fatherland Party or Agrarian Socialist Party, the two examples of relatively social-conservative (or "Radical Center") parties in the suggested "managed" multi-party system.
    Political triad against liberal republicanism (independent working-class political organization, urban petit-bourgeois democratism, and peasant absolutism / autocracy / patrimonialism)
    Independent working-class political organization separates this new political position from the ever-reactionary Bonapartist. The combination of the latter two elements of the triad is a rejection of bourgeois oligarchy hiding under the mask of liberal republicanism ("democracy," "aristocracy," and "monarchy"). Through things like communal power, it acknowledges that the benevolent tyrant model doesn't work. After that, peasantry absolutism / autocracy / patrimonialism does indeed refer to the extent of the National (or Pan-National) Leader's control over the military, law enforcement and corrections, bureaucracy, and courts of constitutional law ("court-packing"), all against bourgeois federalism. This one person, though, whether in or out of la Presidencia, is accountable to the next point.

    Compatibility of party-based "managed democracy" with pre-DOTP orthodox minimum program and applying "managed democracy" towards autocratic and bureaucratic repression of the bourgeoisie and liberal opposition up to and including autocratic sovereignty over constitutional courts but not other courts
    The National Leader is the head of some party, but can be hired and fired at will by that party. The party system is inspired somewhat by the officially multi-party, Popular Front governments of Eastern Europe.

    For example:

    Socialist Fatherland Party (relatively social-conservative "party of power")
    Socialist Freedom Party (relatively social-liberal "party of power")
    Socialist People's Party (relatively social-centrist)
    Socialist Labour Party (relatively social-centrist)
    Agrarian Socialist Party (relatively social-conservative)
    Green Socialist Party (relatively social-liberal)
    Liberation Theology Party (depending on religious affiliation)
    Radical Left Party

    [This is related to the "managed" multi-party system a la Eastern Europe that I wrote about.]
    The bourgeois and liberal opposition get the Lukashenko treatment, and the latter the additional Putin treatment (up to and including the "foreign agents" label). Politicized religious opposition gets the Bismarck treatment and then some. Meanwhile, the communal power as mentioned above, from Proudhon to Chavez, flourishes.

    Economy to encompass all "steps toward socialism," all Economic Republicanism (real, Ricardian, and radical Bourgeois Socialism), and all National-Democratization (finance, energy, food production, international trade and trade policy, transport, communication infrastructure, construction, health, insurance, etc. where not covered by either "steps toward socialism" or Economic Republicanism)
    By "etc." in national-democratization, I don't mean all the other sectors of the economy. There would still be room for state-aided cooperatives, shopkeepers, small tenant farmers, sharecroppers, non-industrial fishermen, etc. plus non-worker intellectuals and really self-employed schmucks (and their market-bullying guild-like organizations) to do their thing.

    Caesarean Socialism retains generalized commodity production and petit-bourgeois private property. However, the class character of all this changes because all bourgeois property is socialized.
    Possibilities for Minsky and Meidner on structural unemployment and working-class savings, respectively
    This is just a side note on additional labour and social measures of a radical character. Another example would be stakeholder co-management, but on a more populist basis (becoming in essence "co-determination" without the bourgeoisie) than a working-class basis.

    DOTP in between Caesarean Socialism and the post-monetary lower phase of the communist mode of production
    "The time will come [...] then it will be ridiculous to talk about “singleness of will” of the proletariat and the peasantry, about a democratic dictatorship, etc. When that time comes we shall attend directly to the question of the socialist dictatorship of the proletariat and deal with it at greater length." (Lenin, Two Tactics)



    Source: https://www.revleft.space/vb/threads...locs?p=2006714
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    We proles await the Leader's orders.
    Not to mention the Leader's March on Rome.
    Just start marching and we'll catch up.
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    Mussolini's farcical "March on Rome" wasn't what I had in mind when I stated "March on Rome" above:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar...ng_the_Rubicon

    IIRC, Michael Parenti mentioned this true March on Rome in his woefully underrated book on a people's history of Julius Caesar.

    Stylistically, though, I would like to see more use of Bolivarian-style red shirts by both worker-class movements everywhere and by "national" / "pan-national" petit-bourgeois movements in the Third World.
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    "Farcical?" Are you aware that Mussolilni seized power as planned?

    I wish the Bolivarians well but the Redshirts were the Garibaldini.

    https://youtu.be/PNcdIF1m0cY?t=275
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornetJoyce View Post
    "Farcical?" Are you aware that Mussolilni seized power as planned?
    Yes, but an imprisoned Gramsci did allude to that guy as a "reactionary Caesar" for a very good reason.

    The theatrics ain't nothin' if there's no fundamental change in state relations.

    I wish the Bolivarians well but the Redshirts were the Garibaldini.

    https://youtu.be/PNcdIF1m0cY?t=275
    I am aware that the original red shirts were Garibaldi's cohorts. Still, as I implied in my political agitation thread, red shirts are far better than Che t-shirts because they connote a sense of discipline.
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    Default Re: Third World Strategy: Explaining Third World Caesarean Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by Vorwarts View Post
    Still, as I implied in my political agitation thread, red shirts are far better than Che t-shirts because they connote a sense of discipline.
    HAHAHA

    Thanks for the laugh buddy.
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