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    To elaborate a bit: there is a tendency among people like Nagle, who are basically right-wing social democrats in terms of their politics, to consider any kind of politics which touches on what can be called identity issues (racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia, etc.) as being tainted by the extremes of campus radicalism, even though those extremes are extremely marginal and, from a broader perspective, entirely irrelevant.

    The students shouting about cultural appropriation because of some food options at a cafeteria are not having a corrosive effect on society more broadly; they barely rise to the level of a minor nuisance for the people in their immediate vicinity.

    However, people like Bret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and other alt-light intellectual heroes do real damage on a societal level, spreading pseudo-science like evopsych as a means of justifying social inequalities between various identity groups (especially against women and trans folks, though it's increasingly also moving into anti-black discourse of the Bell Curve kind).

    These narratives are anti-emancipatory to the core, and convert generations of mostly young white men to anti-emancipatory political projects, like the various alt-light and alt-right movements which are basically the contemporary form of fascism and Nazism.

    And they are aware of this, too. They do it consciously. For example, Peterson regularly rants about "cultural Marxism", and refers to the Soviet Union as some horrible abyss which converted him to a kind of neo-fascist Nietzchean way of thinking about society, wherein traditional social hierarchies indicate a supreme, transcendental order that must be maintained at all costs.

    For Nagle to treat these toxic people as benign defenders of free speech, while portraying their opponents as hysterical and dangerous fanatics who are about to overturn the first amendment -- well that is just a perfect expression of her right-wing social democratic politics, which was always comfortable in aligning itself with fascism to counter the more radical left.
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    I dare anyone to watch this video all the way through. It is absolute insanity mixed with idiocy and the most profound ignorance. Peterson, who is a Christian, and Paglia, who is a climate change denier, perceive themselves to be the mouthpieces of reason and logic fighting against the pernicious influence of neo-Marxists in the academy.

    During their conversation they touch on such important issues as to how a "crazy woman" can be controlled by a man without physical violence, how men are the only thing that keep civilization going, and that women's natural places is in the kitchen and taking care of children because that's how the cavemen did it.

    Very illuminating stuff.

    And Nagle casts Peterson as an intellectual hero in her book. That tells you all you need to know about her politics by itself.

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    At one point in that rambling mess Peterson refers to ressentiment as motivating postmodernists (which he knows near nothing about, incidentally); this is the height of irony given that ressentiment is the best description of how these two maniacs are going at it in this "interview", that more resembles a conversation between lazy undergrads, if not middle schoolers.
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    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them.

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