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    In 1979, the FTC issued some mild rebukes to Amway but ruled that it was not "an illegal pyramid," but a legal pyramid much as capitalism itself. Subsequently, Jerry Rubin became a successful multilevel marketer while other old New Leftists were drawn to tiny Marxist sects.

    A multilevel is built upon the hope of "getting in on the ground floor" and building a fortune from a growing downstream of suckers with the same hope. Political sects likewise offer hopes of getting in on the ground floor and rising to power as the vanguard- the nonprofit counterpart of the multilevel.
    Einstein on marxology:
    "In the realm of the seekers after truth there is no human authority.
    Whoever attempts to play the magistrate there founders on the laughter of the Gods."

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    That's a good analogy, and fits well with my own view of sects as tiny businesses competing with each other over those scarce resources - the "suckers" - who provide free labour for them, guided by the promise of advancing through its ranks and hopefully reaching the position of an Avakian at the end.
    To be, or not to be, that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer,
    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornetJoyce View Post
    Not really. I knew some by sight and some by name. I did encounter Bernadine Dohrn when she was introducing her book, Long before that, our mutual friend- an old communist who had left the party after Hungary- had delivered a long speech to which I was the sole audience, laying out what he thought the Left should be and be doing. (I substantially agreed.) He concluded saying "If you see Bernadine, tell her that for me."
    And I did, but it took a while. She had become a conventional reformist of course.

    I thought their dreams of "war" were probably drug induced and still think so.
    By the way, do you still remember what that speech consisted of? It sounds pretty interesting.

    Also, did you get to the Rodriquez?
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    Yes, I finally got a chance to listen to the videos. Lovely stuff?

    No, the speech itself didn't make a great impression on me. Most of it consisted of things I took for granted.
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    When you first heard the news about the Iranian Revolution what were your thoughts about it, and how did it change as it progressed from 1979 to the mid to late 80s?
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    In the years leading up to the Revolution, Iranian exiles - Georgetown alumnus Ghotbzadeh among them- were very active in Washington. SAVAK was as familiar and disgusting as DINA, AVO, ESA. KGB, STASI, and other pillars of Order. On that basis alone, and the added hope of ending an hereditary monarchy, I wished the exiles success.

    When the Revolution came, I was delighted; the ascendancy of Bani Sadr with his Islamic Socialism seemed to bode well. His fate and Ghotbzadeh's ended that illusion, at which point I could no longer see an emergent republic in the Islamic Republic.
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    To be, or not to be, that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer,
    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them.

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    An excellent survey of the quest for the throne.
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    Whoever attempts to play the magistrate there founders on the laughter of the Gods."

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